2nd meeting in Paris

 10th and 12th of April 2012



Italy: Alessia Fabbro, Andrea Romanini

Spain: José Jesus Delgado Pena, Maria del Pilar Montijano Cabrera, José Sanchez Rodriguez, Ange Diego Pacheco

Austria: Analisa Adamo, Susanne Dengg

Turkey: Bülent Bacioglu, Mükerrem Yurduseven, Rahmi Cinokur, Seref Uz

Portugal: Maria de Jesus Florindo, Luis Sampaio

France: Monique Epstein, Françoise Pettelat, Marguerite Miro, Denis Massard, Didier Chalaye, Henri Desgranges, Ariane Girault, Sabine Riou



11th of April 2012


The meeting started with a discussion about the project activities at local level (state of the art analysis) and the training activities. A participant of each country explained what have been done, and what will be done, in his own country.


  Italy: The Italian team is organising a training that will take place at the end of May-beginning of June. The group of learners is not complete yet. Eight modules of 2 hours  are planned about using Google Maps, Google Earth and about Geocaching. In Summer (except in August) will start the outdoor activities. This project will be joined to another one leaded by the municipality of UDINE (project about connecting some data, collected by the municipality, to Google Maps to make it accessible to everybody).

  Spain: The project is to teach Geocaching using Google Maps, Google View and Google Goggles (new tool, the principle is to take a picture and to give some information about the place where the picture was taken). The aim is to have 50 learners per level and 3 levels (elementary, intermediate and advanced) so 150 learners. To create levels, two factors are analysed: age (55 and more) and knowledge and skills. To plan instructions, the Spanish team asked questions about 5 items (GPS, mobile phone, smart phone and how to use it).  At this point of the collective discussion, an idea appeared regarding the elaboration of common recommendations about ICT tools (everyone is not using the same tool and learners profiles are not the same in different countries). The training will start at the beginning of May.

  France: Free software (Open Street Map and Google Map Maker,  has been used but Google Map Maker is much easier to manipulate... When the tool will be adapted, e-seniors will offer to its learners trainings about it. (In May will begin the new lessons trimester about Smartphone, tablets, ..., Summer courses will also be proposed.)

  Austria: The Austrian team wants to make a general application form for people interested about geocaching. The Carinthia university of applied sciences wish to cooperate fot this project. They will create different levels (GPS, photo,...) and module of 10 learners each (in total around 100 people will be part of it), in May the groups will be complete. The lessons will probably occur during May, June, July and September.

  Portugal: There is a big community interested in Geocaching in Portugal. The idea is to create trainings with different levels and try to find a way for digital application. Outdoor activities have already been done (walking groups of seniors). Now, they want to build a map to share the experience to the others. The intended planning is training in July (botanic walking, churches walking,..., in September finalisation.

  Turkey:  Turkey is new in this kind of projects. The Turkish team is elaborating a questionnaire (8 items) about ICT and GPS. The aim is to have 10-15 learners per group. As the team is coming from a high school, the target group will be pupil's family (parents and grandparents) .


A discussion took place about the feedback to be obtained with a questionnaire:


-         Create a handout (2/3 pages) in English with general recommendations by using different tools (but different kind of students depending on the partner institution) and maybe upload it on the website,

-         Give a questionnaire at the end of the training to have a feedback of the participants. The idea is to ask them about what they have learnt, the sustainability of the knowledge... The group agreed about having the same first part of the questionnaire in every country and to have a particular, personalised second part for each partner. Idea of elaborating a Google form in order to have statistics. By the end of April, Austria will make a proposal.


The AUSTRIAN partner presents the document related to “EXPERIENCES GAINED IN PREVIOUS PROJECT” The document will be sent by email to all partners


Presentation by E-Seniors about the project LEAFLET: the modifications and the logo of the municipality of UDINE will be added.


Open street map presentation by France: Open Street Map is an online program to create some riding. It's similar to Google Map Maker but it is an open source. It is a participatory program in which everyone can add some information; a moderator will check the truthfulness of information.

Website presentation by Spain: The website is really clear and ergonomic. It's well adapted to seniors, for instance, it's possible to increase the size of the text.

Pictures of everybody will be taken and upload on the website (?).

Facebook page by Turkey: important to create social links. The project also covers BIT.


Presentation of the STATE OF THE ART by the Italian responsible: no comment, everybody is OK


Next meeting will take place in EDIRNE Turkey from 17th to 20th of September (travel days included); it is going to be a partners meeting and a learner exchange (½ day). Trials will be realised. The number of participants has to be decided as soon as possible.


12th of April 2012:


The day started with a French presentation of Google Map Maker , that software is used to create your own itinerary. It takes one or two days for the itinerary to be accepted by the moderator. That software is easier to use than Open Street Map because it has less tools.


The municipality of UDINE partners made a presentation about Google Maps to create routes. You need a Gmail account to sign up. One of the main advantages is that you can choose if the route created will be private or public.

Spain partner presents “Google Goggles” application for Iphone and Ipad.



Open discussion and decisions:


1)     Questionnaire

We agreed on a 1 to 5 scale  (1: disagree, 5: totally agree).

The Austrian partners will elaborate the questionnaires.


2)     The Spanish partners will create a template about software used in class, material provided, description of the training… Every partner will have to fill it and send it back to the Spanish team before the 15th of May.


3)     Turkey meeting: what about having a seminar to learn about GPS use?


4)     The Spanish team will give a general overview of the training to the partners.


5)     The Italian responsible recalls that  mid-report has to be done by June.


6)      The French will correct the leaflet after all countries have sent corrections and send it back to all partners so that they can add local stuff and translate in local language.


At the end of the meeting the partners filled in an evaluation questionnaire. At the end of each transnational meeting all partners will fill an evaluation questionnaire. At the end of the project activities all questionnaires will be evaluated into one evaluation report.